“Jon sez 1″ on God & church

“Not being engaged with the church service doesn’t necessarily mean you’re walking away from God, because most of the time, God isn’t involved in the church service.”

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8 Responses to ““Jon sez 1″ on God & church”

  1. Samia March 3, 2010 at 7:39 am #

    Ouch.

  2. angela spain March 16, 2010 at 10:10 pm #

    thanks for helping me with my current thoughts and speculations.

  3. Mary Economos March 16, 2010 at 10:28 pm #

    In orthodoxy, it’s not about the pulpit…it’s not about the preacher…it’s not about the 20 min 3 point sermon. It’s about worshipping before the throne of God. Since the only 2 positions of worship mentioned in the Bible are standing or being prostrate (Isaiah & Rev) those are the only 2 positions we take during the service. Our focus is not on the priest but on the alter. You won’t hear “did you like the service” rather “did He – was your worship sincere”. We most definitely feel that we are engaged with God & He with us during the service.

  4. David Ruybaid March 16, 2010 at 10:37 pm #

    Good thought Jon. It is often true.

  5. Jon Reid March 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    Sami, I see God move in and around me. But I miss seeing him touch people who have gathered in his name.

  6. Jon Reid March 20, 2010 at 2:08 pm #

    Angela, the thing is, I have often seen God be involved in any gathering of his people — including worship services. Just not lately.

  7. Jon Reid March 20, 2010 at 2:09 pm #

    Mary, thank you for taking the time to re-post your Facebook comment over here. It’s valuable.

  8. Jon Reid March 20, 2010 at 2:14 pm #

    David, you’re a good sport. What I miss in gatherings of believers is the sense that the Holy Spirit is actively involved, particularly as seen in the prophetic. Without the Holy Spirit being in charge (which sometimes means he changes the direction of the gathering, otherwise he’s not in charge) I sometimes think we are operating as functional atheists.
    The new songs you have introduced (particularly “How He Loves”) have given me the chance to experience the Spirit’s presence, and I relish those moments. But so often, such moments are private instead of corporate.

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